|
|
Post by Anarky on Aug 15, 2015 3:38:20 GMT
If I am not wrong ? but the person who created Shiva is using Kelly hu but with the first three season of Arrow are taken as Canon for this site. Isn't Kelly Hu the face of Chin A White.
|
|
|
|
Post by Jus on Aug 15, 2015 3:40:57 GMT
Arrow is definitely canon, but the Kelly Hu face is fine. China White used a different look from what the handler is using for Hu- it's all good.
|
|
|
|
Post by Anarky on Aug 15, 2015 3:48:46 GMT
Nice  |
|
|
|
Post by Lady Shiva on Aug 15, 2015 6:40:31 GMT
Cool. (I haven't watched all of Arrow yet so wasn't aware she was in it).
Without discussing anything too spoilery about Arrow for anyone else who hasn't watched it, I know that Ra's is in it. I was planning on Shiva having a vendetta against Batman/Bruce due to the deaths of Ra's and Talia but obviously things happen a little differently to the Ra's of Batman Begins and the Ra's of Arrow. Also, there would be a good few years difference between them. The only way around it I can see is by saying that the Lazarus Pit exists in the Nolanverse but then it kinda ruins any motivation Talia has in Dark Knight Rises...
|
|
|
|
Post by The Joker on Aug 15, 2015 19:44:17 GMT
Well they also say that the pit changes those that come out of it.
|
|
|
|
Post by The Joker on Aug 16, 2015 2:05:58 GMT
Also, Ra's main focus in Arrow is he wants Oliver to take over. I don't think that's really anything spoilery, but that's his central drive is that he wants Oliver to be the new Ra's. So, understanding that Ra's isn't really a mans name in their universe but more along the lines of a title of the leader to the league, it's very possible to just consider the Ra's of Arrow a different Ra's in teh end. Because with this we also do not see Talia in Arrow as she's a batman central focused character. Instead we get Nyssa and some of her character development and Talia is not really mentioned.
Arrow began on October 10th of 2012, so it follows the events of Dark Knight rises, the third film in the Nolanverse franchise which was on July 20th of 2012.
The league of assassin's didn't begin to be a thing in Arrow until Season 2, episode 5, which aired on November 6, 2013.
So we have over a years time gap between the movies, in which a new Ra's (as we know is possible again, because the arrow Ra's wants Oliver to take his place), the father of Nyssa, as Talia is never mentioned to be of existence in the Arrow-verse.
Now of course with mentions of the Lazarus pit and such, and Ra's living for a long time, there's nothing that says that this Ra's of Arrow-verse couldn't have been a loyal top solider to that of Ra's of the Batman Nolaverse Franchise who took over the league.
The league then became prominent in Arrow season 3 which began on October 8, 2014, right along side of The Flash, which began on October 7, 2014.
This also leads to this site, in which Wally West (Kid Flash, played by me as well) is traveled back to 2015 from 2040 due to the ending of The Flash Season 1.
2040 is also the year of Batman Beyond -- or otherwise known as Terry McGinnis.
|
|
|
|
Post by Barry Allen - The Flash on Aug 17, 2015 7:18:50 GMT
to also add onto this after just rewatching the first 2, too late to watch the third tonight but keep the mentality of every show/movie ever, no body no death. We never saw Ra's body. Talia may have only assumed he was dead. In which case if he didn't make it to the pit in time he may very well have died, so my above suggested timeline probably makes the most sense, but just that thought that the Ra's of the nolaverse may not actually be dead, either. But that doesn't mean he didn't resign the title or find a replacement ra's, killed by the replacement to become the new Ra's. All viable options for the imagination.
|
|
|
|
Post by Lady Shiva on Aug 17, 2015 17:10:31 GMT
Cool. To be honest, I just wanted to feel where everyone else was with the character simply because lots of Shiva's motivation that I was planning, comes from Ra's death so depending on who did it/how it happened/where and even if it did, could heavily alter Shiva and indeed the rest of the League.
|
|
|
|
Post by Roy Harper - Red Arrow on Aug 17, 2015 20:06:52 GMT
I just remember Kelly Hu voiced Lady Shiva in Arkham Origins.
|
|
|
|
Post by Barry Allen - The Flash on Aug 18, 2015 2:04:42 GMT
Well, like I said the "no body no death" is just a theory. But he most certainly could have died, and then the Ra's rank was taken by the Ra's that we knew to be the villain Arrow.
So I figure roll with the timeline I suggest and how it all works together (as it makes the most sense to me) unless Jus has anything to say differently about it, being his site and all.
|
|
